Steffens would be sympathetic to Murray's argument. In the article Sending a State to College, Steffens saw how students lacked interest in pursuing a liberal education when there was no immediate result: "farmers, like many businessmen and the practical world in general, thought they “knew everything”; they considered science a theory and higher education a waste of time.” This would be the reason why he created the University Extension Division to attract many people who want to achieve different results from the University. Steffens knew firsthand that many people lacked interest in pursuing a liberal education as Wisconsin farmers dropped out of the four-year course due to general education.